So You Work a 9 to 5: Part 4- Interview with Amanda P- Future TV Writer
I’m always trying to find ways to be inspired and of course, meet cool, funny people. So, one day, I was doing some random Internet surfing from News sites to gossip sites to trying to find an old NWA video on Youtube, and I came across Aspiring TV Writer, a humorous and informative blog by Amanda P, so of course I NEEDED to interview her for girlatastartup. We met up for strong coffee and provisions at King’s Road Cafe and gossiped, interviewed, laughed, and cried. Haha. Sike. No crying involved.
So, tell the readers of “Girl at a startup” about you.
My name is Amanda P, and I’m from Clarence, a suburb outside of Buffalo. The only reason you would have ever heard of it is because Chad Michael Murray went to my high school. Anyway, when I was a teenager I wrote for a section of The Buffalo News called NeXt, which was by for teens. I focused on entertainment and human interest stories. I wrote lots of reviews of movies, CDs and concerts. I even co-wrote a feature about how everybody I knew was obsessed with the Disney Channel. In addition to Lizzie McGuire and Even Stevens, I LOVED the WB - Dawson’s Creek, Felicity, etc. I also liked Once and Again and a show called Higher Ground – Hayden Christensen’s first big role, a show about troubled teens who go to a mountain for therapy - that nobody else watched. Now I love Friday Night Lights, the Office, Ugly Betty, 30 Rock, Gossip Girl, House, Brothers & Sisters and now Greek on ABC Family. I think Greek is hilarious, yet sincere – and it’s the most realistic depiction of college I’ve ever seen on TV. The dorm rooms actually look like dorm rooms!
So, where did you go to Undergrad and tell us about the transition to LA.
I went to Ithaca College in Central New York, which was great and weird. There’s a saying there that the town is “10 square miles surrounded by reality.” It’s this super-liberal college town in the middle of rural, conservative nothingness – but it’s absolutely beautiful. Don’t tell the palm trees that I actually miss the snow sometimes.
Ithaca was great because it enabled me to major in television writing and also take classes in a variety of fields. They also have a program called ICLA where juniors and seniors can come to LA for a semester, take classes and also do internships in the Entertainment industry. I interned in development at Rogue Pictures where I read scripts, made copies, and just got a first-hand view of the process.
What was that like?
In a way Rogue didn’t really need an intern because the company was so small – but I worked for some really cool people, and actually that’s where having a connection paid off because I got my current position (working at a mid-size talent/literary agency) through one of my supervisors. So I’d say – when you do an unpaid internship, keep in mind that the connection may be really valuable even if you’re not doing that much work at the internship itself. At the same time I interned for Rogue I also worked for Red Wagon Entertainment at Sony Pictures. They kept us pretty busy, and I got to see another side of development at a place that focused on high-budget dramas, romantic comedies and family movies. After my time in LA I went back for my last semester and then I moved out here in August, and shortly after, got a job at the agency.
Being an assistant at an agency. Tell me about it! What do you your friends at home think?
I started in the mailroom, which was boring and extremely low-paying, but not as stressful as I had expected. We basically put together scripts and deliver interoffice envelopes from one box to another. That’s it, seriously. I was doing that for 3-4 months before I became a floater. In terms of telling my friends at home, it can be hard. It’s like, “So you make your bosses calls for him? What?” I try to explain it using Entourage – I used to be that guy Ari accidentally fired when he was putting papers on a desk and Ari thought he was an agent. Now I’m Lloyd.
Haha. What’s a floater?
A floater fills in for the assistants when they’re sick, so you’re the on-call person. In a way it can be harder to be a floater than a regular assistant because you have to adjust to the idiosyncrasies of a different agent every day. I was a floater for about a month before I got offered a job as an assistant, which is where I am now. Usually it’s standard to be on an agency desk for a year. Then you can go work at a studio or production company, or if you want to be an agent, you can be an assistant, then a coordinator/trainee, then an agent.
What’s a typical day like for you, Ms Assistant?
Well, I answer the phone, roll calls, submit scripts to Buyers; Studios and Production companies, submit expense reports, send out e-mails about the projects I’m working on, plan lunches/meetings for my boss and his clients. It’s all really basic administrative stuff – and of course the random funny tasks like sending cupcakes to executives to bribe them into returning calls, or getting custom t-shirts made so my boss can keep an inside joke going with his cronies.
You do a lot! So tell me about the blog, www.aspiringtvwriter.blogspot.com , which is how I found you. When did you start it and why?
I’ve been blogging since high school, except before it was Livejournal, and looking back and reading it now, I’m glad I did, but the topics were, you know, high school, about prom dresses and angsty things. I started my current blog in the hopes that it would be a way to let my friends keep up with what I’m doing with my life, but be a little more focused. I hoped it would give me a chance to talk about TV so I could keep writing, and to motivate myself and other people. I mean, if someone else can learn from my struggles - how to find a job when first moving to LA, writing a cover letter, approaching agencies and production companies, etc. – then it will have been successful. It’s just such a specialized industry, and I’m learning a lot by being here. For example, there is SO MUCH MORE competition than anyone realizes even for these assistant jobs.
Were you freaked out from all the horror stories about being a “Lloyd?”
Yes! I mean, I was an Office Production Assistant for a reality show for a short time, but it was really unsteady. And I had heard all these crazy stories about agents, long hours, people throwing things, but I got really lucky where I work because I have a cool boss. Thankfully. And I met a lot of people, my age, at work, so its like we all go through it together.
What’s the worst part about being an Assistant?
Money. It’s really low – and it’s low across the board, but honestly I know people at studios who make almost twice what I do. But maybe it is because it weeds people out. You see the low pay as an opportunity and to prove that you really do want to be here. But you really have to think of it as an investment in your career. A year at an agency is worth a few years Paing for some show or company no one’s ever heard of. Working at an agency is also a fast track to work at a great studio, production company, or becoming an Ari Gold.
What is the “Fire in your belly?”
Well, I’ve always been writing, and what interests me most is people and human relationships. I always tell people that I’m drawn to people who aren’t necessarily nice or friendly, but are good characters. (Does that mean I use people? Haha.) I was in NYC with a friend of mine, a guy who went to my college for a year and then transferred, but I’ve been one of few who kept in touch with him. He’s this bizarre, freckly gray-haired kid who steals things and gets angry easily, but I think he’s endlessly interesting. Like, he reads 300 page books about Hitler for fun. Anyway, we were eating at the “Seinfeld” diner on the Upper West Side (by the way, it’s only the Seinfeld diner on the outside) and he was twirling a French fry between his fingers and theorizing about relationships. He said, “I just want to be dazzled.” People are always the most profound when they’re not trying to be. That basically sums it up for me. I mean, most of us, we just want to be dazzled, see something different.
There was a recent NY Times article about the plethora of women studio executives and yet the lack of strong female roles especially as Summer box office rolls around. Thoughts?
I read that! And I agree with the article overall, but I DEFINITELY think it’s possible to be strong but girly. I think the criticism of Legally Blonde was a little unfair. Think about it: Elle Woods got her degree at Harvard Law, became a successful lawyer, and dumped the guy who didn’t appreciate her for her intelligence. How is that not feminist? So what if she likes getting her nails done? When I took a feminist lit class in college, my teacher once said, “I think you can wear mascara and still be a feminist,” and that’s exactly how I feel.
I think the problem is that we’ve been trained to think that stories about men are universal, but not exactly the other way around. Then again, look at the box office success of “Devil Wears Prada” and “Juno.” That makes me happy. I think we need to focus on writing strong female characters who are also flawed and real. What I’ve noticed with a lot of scripts I’ve read/have been optioned, is that the mostly male writers, have written these strong, complicated female roles, but they’re actually their own personal ideals of what a woman should be. So, she’s really hot, sassy, strong, but still shows this vulnerability that a man can fix. I hate that…but I don’t know if I have the exact solution. It’s definitely a challenge to write complicated female characters that have flaws.
I agree. What else?
I think that there’s also a huge lack of diversity in the writing rooms. Its something that everyone acknowledges, but that no one really talks about. That’s why ABC, CBS, NBC, they created “Diversity Initiatives,” so that its required to have more minority representation in the writers’ rooms. I really recommend reading BILLION DOLLAR KISS by TV writer Jeffrey Stepakoff. He has a really interesting chapter about diversity (or the lack thereof) in writers’ rooms.
Where do you hope to be in the near future?
Ideally, I want to write for TV. I love TV because it’s so open-ended, and it becomes part of your culture. When a movie premieres, a bunch of people go see it, and then fewer the next week, and fewer the next week, until (barring awards season) everybody forgets about it completely. TV Shows can go on and on, and really evolve. Also, in movies, characters are expected to undergo these big changes in 2 hours – but on TV, characters undergo these tiny changes throughout each episode, but it’s something that makes sense throughout the course of a season. I mean, when “Friends,” first started, you would never have guessed that Monica and Chandler would’ve gotten together, but then when it finally happened, it made perfect sense because that is how the characters evolved.
Do you think TV reflects the reality of America?
No. There is definitely a misrepresentation of minorities on TV. But it becomes about a blame game between studios and advertisers and networks. It’s about targeting that certain demographic. But I’m not sure how much we should be focused on the concept of reflecting “reality” in TV – in a way the reason we like TV is because it’s different than our lives.
As an aspiring TV writer, what do you think about “The Hills” and reality TV?
Reality TV is here to stay and I acknowledge that. I actually have a theory that there are two types of reality shows:
1. Shows that shed light on an existing world you didn’t know about - Project Runway, Top Chef, Dirty Jobs. These are great and interesting because they bring viewers into completely new worlds. They’re like documentaries in that way.
2. Shows that create a contrived world- The Hills, Real World, The Bachelor
I mean, if a reality show can shed light on an interesting world and bring up topics about politics or race, that’s valuable. Is a bunch of people hooking up with each other in hot tub as interesting? I don’t think so.
After the strike, has the development/pilot season gotten back to normal?
Right now, we’re in Staffing season so its really busy. The development process has changed and a lot of networks are moving towards more of a year-round pilot season, but things are getting back to normal. There are spec sales every week, but you know, there are new realities. New media is here to stay and the disconnect to TV is growing. People are obviously watching more on the Internet. But it’s going to be a few years before a new broadcast model is really figured out – and even then, it’ll probably still be changing.
What are some tips for someone who wants to get representation or a pitch meeting?
It’s hard…everybody has a different success story. Just keep writing. You can also find a crew, shoot something funny and short and put it on youtube. I have a friend who taught himself to animate and he got a pitch meeting at a Cable network. Stuff like this happens all the time. So just keep writing and creating projects. Half the battle is doing the work, and half the battle is making contacts. Keep up with writing, keep reading, and keep meeting people. The people who DON’T make it are those that didn’t give it enough time and those that didn’t try hard enough.
You’re awesome! Okay, one last thing, you’re also a volunteer! Tell us about “Write Girl” and how you got involved.
Well, I’ve always been into Community Service, it’s one of the reasons I got my scholarship at Ithaca. Our group was part of an Adopt a Highway program, and we’d walk along the side of this rural road wearing orange vests and yellow helmets picking up trash and shrieking when someone found a deal squirrel. I mean, it’s a great program – bu my friends and I were like, “Is this really using our skills to the best of our ability? We are all communications scholarships - what if we used our communication skills to volunteer?” So we created this group called Megaphone that provided media services to local nonprofits. Once I came to LA, I wanted to volunteer in that same way, so I did an online search and found WriteGirl. It’s a creative writing mentorship program for high school girls. We have mentors who meet with girls weekly as well as monthly workshops focused on different genres like screenwriting, songwriting, fiction, etc. It’s a positive program and targets underprivileged girls so they can see positive female role models and be inspired to write. We’ve had speakers such as Diablo Cody and Diane Warren. I think the girls really get a kick out of seeing these positive, successful women who’ve used their passions to get somewhere in life. It’s a great program.
I’ll have to check that out. Also, you guys are always looking for people right?
Yup. Here’s the info for Writegirl.
Amanda, so good to meet you and I’ll definitely keep reading your blog. And keep me updated with any new “Lloyd” stories. haha…
The Chicago Tribune Used Our Embed Feature!!!…due to my lack of physical movement for hours on end
So!!! Its Friday. Nice. And yesterday, actually for weeks and weeks on end, I’ve been e-mailing bloggers and columnists about the docstoc embed feature.
Much of this has been fueled by my lack of movement in a chair except for my fingers across the keyboard, occasionally clicking on the mouse, and of course, from the house blend of a local French coffee shop.
So!!! Anyway, I’m psyched to see that Eric Zorn of the Chicago Tribune used the docstoc embed feature for his Post entitled, “Change of Subject; Good News for Gays, Bad News for Dems.“
Kobe may have more in common with MJ than I thought…
Kobe leads the Lakers to a win against the Jazz despite back problems, and scores 26 points, 7 assists and 6 rebounds.
My Mom didn’t let my brother and I watch much TV growing up. Only one hour a night and only after all studying/homework. EXCEPT for the NBA. My brother and I lived to watch basketball. He was a NY Knicks fan, and I was a die-hard Chicago Bulls fan. He said I was on the bandwagon, and maybe I was, but I just loved watching Michael Jordan kick ass with his wingman Scottie Pippen and of course, badboy Dennis Rodman.
Now that I live in the City of Angels, home of the Lakers and golden boy turned bad boy turned golden boy, Mr. Kobe Bryant, I was struck by the similarities of how he played last night against the Utah Jazz and Jordan during Game 5 in 1997 against the Utah Jazz.
-Sick with the flu, Jordan scores 38 points including a tie-breaking 3-pointer to win the game against the Utah Jazz
- With back problems, Kobe scores 26 points, leading the Lakers in a win against the Utah Jazz
-Jordan was coached by Zen guru/coach, Phil Jackson
- Kobe was coached by Zen guru/coach, Phil Jackson
As Coach Jerry Sloan (former coach of the Bulls) says, “That’s what great players do. They put it on and go to another level. That’s all I’ve ever seen. That’s always kind of scary to talk about, but I have to be honest.”
Holla.
Black and White Pics erase your flaws!!!
So, I needed to get my pics taken for something, and had them taken yesterday by the talented editorial photographer, Michael D’Ambrosia who has shot celebs such as Dr. Dre and Cheech Marin. (Obviously, I’m not a celeb, though I am obsessed with Dre and can rock out “Forgot About Dre,” during karaoke)
I thought I’d share them with ya’ll.
I had an “Office Space” Moment
Today, I needed to print out tons and tons of paper for a meeting.
And of course… the Printer says, “Paper Jam” EXCEPT there is no paper jam!!!
I had a vision of grabbing Samir and Michael Bolton, and just going at it with this stupid printer.
That was random. I know, but GEEZ!!! I literally heard gangsta rap in my head as the printer kept saying, “Paper Jam” because THERE WAS NO PAPER JAM.
I don’t understand machinery.
So You Work a 9 to 5: Part 3- Interview with Kari Kurto, Casting Associate for “My Name is Earl” and “Weeds”
So, I’m BEYOND excited to introduce the readers of girlatastartup to Kari Kurto, Casting Associate of Dava Waite Peaslee Casting. (They cast funny, awesome shows from Showtime’s, “Weeds” to NBC’s “My Name is Earl) We met for coffee at an independent coffee shop on Melrose which had a cool vibe, great coffee, and full of screenwriters clicking away on their laptops. So….
Kari, what’s up? So, tell the readers about yourself
I took acting classes as a kid, theater in high school. Then I went to Emerson college and realized I didn’t want to act as a career, but I loved casting. So, I started Emerson Casting and cast local talent in plays and short films. I was working full-time, going to school, and of course having a social life, but I loved it.
You sound like it was going well for you. When did you decide to make the move to LA?
Well, my friend interned for Anne Many, who was the VP of Casting for Fox at the time, and told me that I should go out to LA and work in casting. Anne found out about Emerson Casting and told me to put some people on tape (put them on camera) for the Jason Alexander pilot called “Bob Patterson.” So I found some people, auditioned them, put them on tape, and sent it out to LA. I ended up going out there for the summer and within 2 weeks, I had an interview with Dava Waite, which is where I’m still working today. We got coffee, talked about random stuff, and she hired me on the spot. Its been 7 years since that day.
What projects have you worked on?
Wow. A ton of stuff. Tons of pilots that you’ve never heard of, the ones that didn’t get picked up by networks. Also, Yes Dear, In Case of Emergency, My Name is Earl, and Weeds.
What obstacles have you been up against in the big world of Hollywood casting?
Well, I started out at 20 years old and people wouldn’t take me seriously. I’d have big-name, famous actors come in and they’d be like, “Why am I reading with you?” I definitely had to prove myself.
What advice would you give to actors coming in to read for you or just people who are interviewing for jobs in general that aren’t in Entertainment?
Hmmm.. Well, I’d say that they should do a good job at whatever they decide to do. And oh yeah, be nice to people. It sounds simple, but it goes a LONG way.
So tell me, what’s a day in the life of Kari Kurto?
(laughs) Well, let’s see I talk/IM/E-mail all day with agents, managers, and Studio people.
Going back to the advice thing, I take time to listen to actors and the agents, and treat people how I want to be treated. I try to make sure to call the agents to let them know why their actors weren’t right for a certain part and try to give notes.
Yes, I actually met you during a workshop. You were super positive and gave great notes. Tell me why you like to teach workshops.
Its great because I actually enjoy talking to/giving notes to actors. Its fun for me.
I like to give notes and teach b/c I can take everything that I’ve learned about the biz and give that information to actors. Also, I LOVE to discover talent. And most casting offices WANT you to book the job b/c they want to be the one that finds the undiscovered talent.
Have you found your passion?
I love what I do. The best part for me is finding a great role on a smart project and then thinking of someone for the role, seeing them book it, go to Studio, go to Network, and then see the finished product.
Working in Hollywood, what’s a piece of entrepreneurial advice that you can give to the readers of girlatastartup?
Don’t take no for an answer. Ever. Just never take it as concrete. If someone tells you you’re too young, too this, too that, just KEEP GOING! Also, be as content as you can with your life because positivity is contagious. Anyone is capable of anything, and people want to be around positive people. Also, don’t make enemies. Persevere. And LA is a small world, so keep your mouth shut.
Haha. Great info. So how tech-savvy are you?
I’m Internet savvy meaning I can research my ass off. One time, Greg (Greg Garcia, creator of My Name Is Earl), wanted me to find a guy with no legs as Didi’s boyfriend. I was like, okay, and scoured the Internet, and found this great scruffy guy with Titanium legs, in the Screen Actors Guild, a great actor, and guess what Greg said?
What?
He said, “Great, but I was kind of thinking of someone with swoop Titanium legs.” It was Friday night and I was so depressed b/c I had worked so hard to find someone and was about to just drink a bottle of wine by myself, and then I open up “People” magazine and there’s this story about a kid with SWOOP Titanium legs and so I got in contact with his family, and got him on the show.
Whoa. You’re like a Casting hustler.
(laughs)
So, what did you do during the Writer’s Strike? How did you pay the rent?
Well, I ended up making hula hoops. After the writer’s strike, it was really scary, but it gave me time to trust my gut. And I found out what my next step should be.
Which is…
I’m going to start my own Casting company after July 15, with Dava’s blessing of course. Its crazy, but really exciting and I truly believe that its the right thing. I’ll cast whatever, commercials, Indie films, Cable networks, and of course Studio/Network projects. I’m ready
Any last bits of advice, inspirational words?
Don’t be afraid of going for what you want, Look people in the eye, Be good to people, Stay away from Assholes, take everything with a grain of salt, accept compliments/criticism,
Oh and keep Friends and business seperate…because once you have something that people want, everyone is your “Friend.” And lastly, if you don’t see an option in front of you, go out and create it. Don’t wait around for it.
Kari, you’re freaking awesome. Thanks for the interview. It was fun and I still owe you like 2 bucks for the coffee b/c they didn’t take debit cards!

docstoc “Tech Geek” Commercial
So, with all the exciting Office/docstoc/geek knowledge that I’ve acquired, I decided to write a commercial script.
Without further ado, here is my docstoc “Tech Geek” commercial.
Feel free to comment. Its cool. I’m pretty thick-skinned.
MTV’s “The Hills” Completely Represents Los Angeles… yeah, right
I thought I’d post something about The Hills. I’m a bit ashamed to admit that I do watch this show, as its one of my guilty pleasures like ice cream and SunChips (only French Onion, though).
I love how “Real” this show is. Sike. Here are some highlights from this week’s episode
1) Lo and LC have resorted to 3rd grade behavior at their new house, and are mean to Audrina, the nice but “Girl that doesn’t stick up for herself.”
2) Audrina dates a guy with two first names; Justin Bobby (though he is hotter without all that long hair)
3) For being in their early 20’s, they live in a SICK house. Nice. Yeah, and MTV pays their mortgage. I’m jealous.
4) Lo and LC visit Audrina in the studio, stay for approximately 3 minutes, and then say that they’ve seen enough and that sushi beckons.
5) The episode ends with Lo and LC cuddling their newly bought puppy. Audrina tries to start a conversation with them, but they make her feel left out by pretending that she’s not there.
6) And LAST BUT NOT LEAST… the saga of Heidi and Spencer continues.
Spencer still has no job, and is shacking up at his sister’s place
Heidi… is still being Heidi and is on her way to Vegas for more Spencer-less Bolthouse drama.
Gotta love “Reality” TV
DealMaker Media LA Event @MTV Networks
I went to the Dealmaker Media event yesterday with a couple members of the docstoc crew.
It was an exciting night of networking and meeting members of the TECH community in the posh MTV offices. haha..
You know, I consider myself to be a relatively social person, but I find networking at these events to be forced. I met a ton of really cool people from VC’s to PR people to of course, tech gurus who have their own start-ups. We mostly agreed that these events reminded us of middle school dances with cliques of the “Cool People” and of course, cliques within cliques.
BUT..the highlight of the night was “ROCK BAND” that was set up in the corner. I sang/karaoke/rock band-ed “Say It Ain’t So” by Weezer as well as “Creep” by “Radiohead.”
Belting out a song or two definitely helps to loosen up so you can go out and network and spread the word about docstoc. BEST PART… I won an mStation 2.1 Stereo for singing!!!
I haven’t won anything since the 4th grade library contest. SO EXCITING. Ok, gotta go back to work. Have a good Tuesday!
Next Interview..Kari Kurto, Casting Associate for “My Name Is Earl” and “Weeds.” She Also Makes Hula Hoops
I actually majored in Journalism so this interviewing stuff is helping me flex those B.A. skills. haha.
Next up is Kari Kurto, with whom I’ve taken several workshops, the Casting Associate for “Weeds,” and “My Name is Earl,“.
Her interview will be up next week, and its full of fun facts like what she did during the Writers’ strike, her love of skateboards and oh yeah, her alias. Duh.
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